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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:58 pm 
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Hey guys,

Over the past year I have tried everything from HCG to Nolvadex to all the prescribed herbal stuff on this forum. Over the last few days I have seen my sex drive recover, and my brain fog disappear. As I said, I've tried everything. Yet, recently I picked up Tetris Tribulus, and a specfic extract of it to be specific. I used it numerous times at low doses, and it helped me while I was on it. I went off and on it, feeling better while on, and those feelings gone while I was off. What I recently did (about 2-3 weeks ago), was use it for maybe 5 days at 2-3 times the prescribed rate of each dose, 2-3 times a day, for as I said, maybe 5 days or less. The results were that even after I stopped, things seem to have returned to normal (after a brief up and down few days), and potentially even better than before. The reason they might be better than before was that I used finasteride twice in my life, and only after the second time did I notice the negativity. The improvement that I have seen may be due to a recovery from even my initial finasteride use, when I was probably only 17-18, and my hormones were going through changes that needed not to be toyed with.

Anyway, over the next few days I will detail if my progress continues, and I will show you guys the exact product I used and the dosage I use in exact detail. As I said, I've tried a lot of things over the last year, as that is my personality, I tend to be rather relentless. I tried finasteride at 21 and it changed me, made my life worse, but I hope to be an improved person from the experience. To be honest, from all the recoveries on this forum, everyone seems to have found their cure from differing sources, and I guess this has to do with how everyone's body reacts to changes to notice the HPTA axis imbalance. I'm trying to chip in what I can.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:01 pm 
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By the way, I read all the studies about Tribulus' effects on estrogen rather than testosterone, and etc. and when I took it, it was a calculated, albeit, desperate move. I'm not saying that Tribulus is the cure in itself, I'm just saying that it may be the trigger for the body to notice a hormonal imbalance and fix itself. Tribulus could have sent my estrogen numbers through the roof, and I certainly know it improved my testosterone numbers because of the way I was feeling. Again, take everything with a grain of salt, I have taken advice from people on this forum about their recoveries that caused me to use products recommended by them that made things worse for me.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:04 pm 
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Congrats so far but, how is it that tribulus, which is a natural herb, could be more potent for you compared to hCG and Nolvadex, which are pharmaceuticals? What did you experience when you took those substances (and for how long, what dosages etc)?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:08 pm 
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Glad your feeling better, but also, shouldnt you wait at least a month after sustained recovery before making a post in this section?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:18 pm 
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ScaredMD took a high dose trib product after his H-drol cycle. It was part of his PCT for five or six weeks. Not sure if there's anything to it, just wanted to point it out. He says he's recovered.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Good point - we can see if this recovery sticks - and hopefully jack tries out his supplements since he purchased the same thing that scared took and then we can see if this is all incidental or not.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm 
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Mew wrote:
Congrats so far but, how is it that tribulus, which is a natural herb, could be more potent for you compared to hCG and Nolvadex, which are pharmaceuticals? What did you experience when you took those substances (and for how long, what dosages etc)?


It's hard to explain. I felt better on Tribulus than on the other drugs. Maybe this is due to the extract of Tribulus I used. I had more regular erections, more semen production, etc. while I was on it compared to hCG and Nolvadex, and to get this effect at first I didn't have to use particularly high doses. The reason I've made this recovery thread is because I have never felt like this after I took finasteride. I had a peroid after I stopped the high dose tribulus, that everything went down for a bit, and then came back up, and I feel better than ever. Even when I was on those drugs, I couldn't think as clear as I used to. Now it seems that I am like I was before, my mental comprehension skills have picked back up. I am very confident that this recovery is an actual 'recovery' because of that I way I feel. I've gone through a lot over the last year+ to know how my body feels and what's working and what's not, I've used more drugs in a year, or as many drugs, as anyone on this forum, and I've maybe spent $1,000+ on these drugs, if not more, just to show you how many drugs and therapies I have tried. I feel good, like I did before, better than maybe before my second finasteride usage, or my first, before my hormones had fully progressed. I'm 22 and feel like a 22 year old should right now.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:39 pm 
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golf17331 wrote:
Glad your feeling better, but also, shouldnt you wait at least a month after sustained recovery before making a post in this section?


I feel better, and I plan to return to the therapy that I did previously if things don't continue like this, but I feel as though they should, hopefully.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:08 pm 
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Hopingformore wrote:
golf17331 wrote:
Glad your feeling better, but also, shouldnt you wait at least a month after sustained recovery before making a post in this section?


I feel better, and I plan to return to the therapy that I did previously if things don't continue like this, but I feel as though they should, hopefully.

how worse ur sides were? just ED or physical as well like muscle wastage , weight loss, depression, insonmia ,joint pain, general weakness and testicular shrinkage etc. Do you have any blood report from past ?

if there was shrinkage in the junk do u feel it returned to normal?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:34 pm 
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spstriken wrote:
Hopingformore wrote:
golf17331 wrote:
Glad your feeling better, but also, shouldnt you wait at least a month after sustained recovery before making a post in this section?


I feel better, and I plan to return to the therapy that I did previously if things don't continue like this, but I feel as though they should, hopefully.

how worse ur sides were? just ED or physical as well like muscle wastage , weight loss, depression, insonmia ,joint pain, general weakness and testicular shrinkage etc. Do you have any blood report from past ?

if there was shrinkage in the junk do u feel it returned to normal?

thanx

sps


I have blood work, it's in the bloodwork section. I had some ED, low semen production, some comprehension issues, muscle contractions. My testosterone was low, my estrogen was through the roof.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:57 am 
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Could you please share what brand of tribulus product you used? Does anybody know how much tribulus can raise your estrogen levels? If it also raises your testosterone, should it not kinda balance out?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:28 pm 
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Hopingformore

how r u doing? still making progress?

sps


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:37 pm 
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to be honest i felt more from trib than from hcg

it was awesome, i took a 1 g trib supp a day and on day 3 i swear i was THE alpha male

i never felt that confident

next days it went downhill again

sperm production though on trib is insane, but you also cum faster.. i believe it somehow has an effect on the prostate

also i think it greatly increases estrogen and that in the long run this wouldn't be such a good supp for maintaining test levels

best cycled 5 days on 2 days off


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:44 pm 
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cumkwakka wrote:
to be honest i felt more from trib than from hcg

it was awesome, i took a 1 g trib supp a day and on day 3 i swear i was THE alpha male

i never felt that confident

next days it went downhill again

sperm production though on trib is insane, but you also cum faster.. i believe it somehow has an effect on the prostate

also i think it greatly increases estrogen and that in the long run this wouldn't be such a good supp for maintaining test levels

best cycled 5 days on 2 days off


r u not on TRT now?

sps


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:27 pm 
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im on trt right now, 125 mg sust a week and 2x250 iu hcg


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:28 pm 
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Could you clarify how much you took a day? Did you take 2-3 times the dose a day overall or did you take 2-3 times the dose several times a day making it a huge dose? I'm thinking of trying this as I noticed some positive effects with tribulus.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:21 pm 
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also which tribulus did you take?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:20 pm 
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solonjk wrote:
and hows this going on?? are you sustaining your testicle size properly??

did you have any prostate or testicle pains??


less fatigue, feel more alpha/powerful, more girls noticing me

on the bad side libido the same, ed still present

no prostate or testicle pains at all

hcg 2 days on the weekend


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:01 pm 
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19 wrote:
also which tribulus did you take?


american sports tribex (its not the same as biotest) look up the ingredients


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:02 pm 
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19 wrote:
Could you clarify how much you took a day? Did you take 2-3 times the dose a day overall or did you take 2-3 times the dose several times a day making it a huge dose? I'm thinking of trying this as I noticed some positive effects with tribulus.


i took two tabs with a total amount of 2 grams i believe that was trib

there was also avena sativa, hgw and some other shit in it which was good for libido


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