PROPECIAHELP: Persistent Finasteride Propecia Proscar side effects info & discussion forum

I wonder how many people are using inhibit E and blueup etc. Can any body give updates?

sps

They did nothing for me as a stand-alone.

so u mean do exactly as u did? if this is so who prescribed this protocol to u?

thanx

sps

Hi ScaredinMD,

Sorry to bring this up again, but could you do us a favor and post your complete hormone test when you have the time to? I just searched for your posts, and it looks as though you posted your T and FSH levels, but nothing else. The reason I am asking is that I am considering going through your cycle and would like to compare my hormone profile with yours before doing so.

Thank you! Much appreciated.

Folks,

Sorry to spam this thread, but I would like to hear people's opinion on the following thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/i ... 54441.html

I don't know about you, but what happened to the guy there on H-Drol sounds an awful lot like what happened to me on Propecia...

Read also the posts in the bodybuilding forum quoted in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3788&p=22964#p22964

I joined that bodybuilding to be able to get in touch with the guy who posted the relevant information, KSMan. He is very responsive and seems to be pretty knowledgeable about all this. If people are interested, I can post my correspondence with him here. KSMan's theory is that, since both pro-hormones and finasteride are substances not produced by the body itself (he calls them "xeno (=foreign) steroids), they permanently alter certain gene expressions in some people, leading to post-fin condition.

The bottom line is: it is possible that H-Drol has similar effects as finasteride. At the same time, we already *are* in the state the guy in the first post got himself into by taking H-Drol (or at least I am), so I am not sure if this is too worrisome. Moreover, maybe it was precisely because H-Drol is similar in some way to finasteride that it worked for ScaredinMD... I don't know. Any thoughts anyone?

so what have u taken? Hdrol or finasteride?

I took finasteride. I have never taken H-Drol but am considering doing so by way of following ScaredinMD's regimen.

Hey ScaredinMD, how much do you weigh. The blue up bottle that I got says that I take two pills if you weigh around less than pounds and go only up to 3 pills if you weigh over 225 lbs. I am around 160 lbs. Do you think I should reduce my dosage to two pills and not three pills. I dont want my body to shut down production of its natural T by overdosing and producing excess T which will be sensed and causing it to shutdown.

Thanks.

these are scary stories. if Hdrol cause this to somebody, how figurout we wont be that somebody?

spstriken -

True. At the same time, one could argue that the damage is already done, so there is less risk in taking the H-Drol than there would be otherwise. Put bluntly, your dick can't go limp twice over. Moreover, maybe it is precisely because fin and H-Drol might have similar effects that the latter was able to reverse the damage done by the former for ScaredinMD?

ScaredinMD -

Last question (for now): did you feel any changes to your libido or your genital area while on H-Drol? Did your testicles shrink? In other words, did your HPT axis shut down? Thanks.

I just searched for clomid on this website, and it came up with:

'Customers who bought this product also purchased..' and Proscar came up?

I'm thinking about trying clomid, it's bee 2 and a half months since I quite, may as well give it a shot right? where can I get it without a prescription in the UK though?

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So you still had ED during H-Drol... and the day you stopped hdrol you started the AI. So did the ED stop the next day? did it take a week a month? Could you tell you were getting better ? or one day you stopped the AI and then no more ED? Basically if you were doing it again would you be able to tell its working or would one need blind faith with no sign of gradual recovery until one day you wake up and BOOM....

hey scared, do u have any idea of the supps you used increase androsterone?

Guys, I have been looking into this AndroHard stuff, and I have been thinking the following. AndroHard is androsterone, which is an already 5A-reduced metabolite of DHEA and therefore further metabolizes to DHT without 5AR. So, I am wondering if there might be a diagnostic purpose to taking the stuff: if you take it and your symptoms are getting better, then this suggests that the issue is 5AR deficiency; if you take it and don't get better, it is probably something else, maybe with your androgen receptors. What do people think? Does this sound plausible? Am I missing something?

Well, since we're on the subject, I've actually tried it, and it works. When I was placing my order for the usual PP supps, I was curious and teimpted at the same time, so I bought it. It was also on special, which made it even harder to resist.

I"ve never taken anything like this before, so was apprehensive at first, but once I did, man I liked it.

There was an immediate calm that fell over me after I injected the grape flavored sludge into my mouth. Within an hour I felt...manly, tough...like a don't f with me feeling. I liked and missed that feeling very much. I used to have it often prefin.

I ran a whole four week cycle. I just took my last dose yesterday. Muscle wise It did just as the products name implies. I got hard and cut all over. My muslce were defined like prefin. More importantly, my guy downstairs was thick, full and hard.

The major draw back was, I lost ALOT of hair. It worked too well actually and I noticed heavy shedding within days of building it up in my system. I didn't care because I felt good, better then usual.

Anyway, I believe this was a total hijack of this thread, so I'll stop now. I've started a PCT as the Androhard is mildly suppressive. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Great to hear, cdnuts. Do keep us in the loop please. (The verdict will probably be out for several weeks...) Definitely also let us know what you are doing by way of PCT. I know that the guys over at PP are down on ATD (Inhibit-E) as an estrogen blocker because it suppresses libido among other things (http://www.primordialperformance.com/di ... hread.html). Ordinarily - that is, if I were doing this for bodybuilding purposes alone - I would therefore probably go for their Testosterone Recovery Stack, which at least on paper looks like a well-designed PCT product to me. (No, I am not getting any cuts from them!) However, I am wondering if in our case ScaredinMD's PCT makes more sense. Maybe the added suppression is precisely what did the job for him? Either way, do let us know what you are doing. Best of luck!

cdnuts, is your DHT clinically low?

Yes, the suppression is what's needed to resupress the system from where our baseline ended up after fin, but the PCT is necessary to get the body restarted correctly. I am using their TRS along with TCF-1, both of which I've used as stand alones and have good results with.



I don't know, as I've never had blood tests. But from the way I've reacted to the Androhard, I would say yes. I also want to mention my facial hair got denser and started growing quicker, along with increased body hair. I had all of the signs of increased DHT, which is exactly what the product is designed to do.

CD - would you say its the most successful product you have done so far? how are nocturnal/morning erections? libido?

Let us know how it keeps up!