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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:45 am 
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Hey guys i've been lurking this forum for a few months now so i figured it was about time I made an account and shared my story.

I am a Saw Palmetto sufferer. I took it for around 10 months when I was 21 and it totally destroyed me. I got all the sexual side effects mentioned here. Low libido, erectile dysfunction, loss of morning wood, loss of spontaneous erections, and watery seamen.

If effects came on so gradually that I didnt notice anything was wrong until I hit rock bottom. Even then, stupid me, I didnt quit right away, i just lowered my dosage for another month until I realized I had to get off this shit.

It has been almost 2 years since I quit and Im still not normal. I have improved though, which gives me a little bit of encouragement. I'm happy to say now that I do get morning erections again (although they are sometimes weak ones) and my seamen is no longer watery. Also, when I first quit i pretty much couldnt get an erection at all. I would masturbate and it was as if i had no blood flowing down there. Now I can get steady wood but only after I've had contact with it. I'd like to see these little improvements as a sign that i will slowly return back to normal, or so I hope.

I have tried several different supplements over the past year to help recover, and I feel every time I add something new I feel absolutely amazing for like a week but then the improvements subside.

This is my regime that I'm trying out now, please tell me if Im doing anything wrong or if I should take something out/add in:
tribulus 500mg twice daily
zinc 50mg every other day
l-arginine 1000mg once daily
vitamin D3 2000ui once daily
multi vitamin daily

Thanks for reading guys, hopefully we can all overcome this horrible shit.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:16 pm 
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welcome. I know you for the last two years on hairloss.com. I would say quit Tribulus I have seen two cases of gyno and same sides as we got from saw palmetto. these herbs have many compounds maybe some compounds are 5 AR inhibitors. Go on musclechatroom.com and see chemman's posts. He screwed himself up from TB.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:23 am 
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Thanks for the advice. I think ill cut the tribulus down to once a day then, instead of twice. See if there is improvement.

Also a couple things to add to my original post. There were a few other side effects I had from sp that eventually went away. When I first quit, I had mental sides of stuttering and slurring my words. That eventually went away after a while. I also found myself peeing constantly. That too went away. So pretty much I'm stuck with all the sexual sides, for now.

In hopes that it would help I have started to exercise regularly, usually 3-4 days a week. Been doing this for a a few months now and although it hasnt really helped my situation, its nice to see my body in great shape.

As far as my diet, I recently began eating fruit and almonds all the time, as I read this could help. I also now drink green tea every day. I want to start drinking pomegranate juice more often now as I read that may help as well.
This new diet probably won't have any serious effects on my situation, but I figured its probably best to be as healthy as possible if I'm gonna try and fix myself.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:13 am 
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Flamingpie how are your balls? are they shrunken still?
Did they grow back or not changed after quitting SP?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:30 pm 
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nah they never became shrunken. Or maybe they were but I just never noticed it. So many side effects came from this that I didnt even think were attributed to the sp until later on.
But my balls seem fine now, I used to have ball pains like described on this board but thankfully that went away several months ago.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:37 pm 
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what do you think about my vitamin d3 dosage? ive been taking 2000iu a day, but I've seen some member stories who have taken like 10,000iu a day. Not sure what the appropriate dose is for people like us


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:00 pm 
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flamingpie wrote:
what do you think about my vitamin d3 dosage? ive been taking 2000iu a day, but I've seen some member stories who have taken like 10,000iu a day. Not sure what the appropriate dose is for people like us

every body is different. it depends how much you feel improvement. I take from 3000IU to 4000IU.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:26 am 
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ok cool i think im gonna start taking 4000iu a day now see if it makes a difference

Weird thing happened recently, pretty much I made some changes that I thought would help me recover but instead Im feeling worse than before. For the past two weeks I havent smoked a cigarette, I dropped Nizoral shampoo (been taking it for 2 years, just found on this forum that users dont recommend it when dealing with sides) and I started doing stretching/yoga exercises.
But now for the last few days Ive been like shit. I havent had any morning wood these last few days (I had gone like 3 months straight with them) and i get a random pain down there every now and again.

Hopefully this will pass, but its about time I make an appointment with a urologist now and see whats he's got to say. Judging by various stories on this forum it doesnt seem like going to a doctor is gonna help too much, but who knows. Plus it would be nice to get set up with some cialis/viagra, just in case.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:51 pm 
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Sorry to heart of another young victim. Did you happen to feel amazing when you added Zinc?

Also, you should find a good internet site with generics if your after cheap cialis, and just stock up a little.. I am 20 and 1 year 2 months off the drug too.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:10 pm 
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Hey flamingpie, as I cited in my member story post, I take 5000IU of Vitamin D daily... I'm not sure if that has 'cured' me, but since I've taken it, I've noticed significant improvement.


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:02 pm 
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Hey UK, with the zinc I actually did feel great when I first started using it, but eventually the benefits faded away. I've been trying different doses with it for the past few months, but now I decided to ditch it, at least for now. And I think I'm going to do that with the cialis....have you ever purchased any from the internet?

So I know I said a little over a week ago that I had a little crash, funny thing was the day after I made that post I woke up feeling amazing. For 3-4 days straight I felt amazing like my old self. But of course, that little recovery went away. Now im back to how I've been for the past few months, morning wood every day but thats it.
I've purchased a bottle of horny goat weed, and I think I'm gonna save these as a backup in case of an emergency.


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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:09 pm 
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Sounds like you ar fluctuating a lot. It is SO frustrating.


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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:26 am 
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Ok now I am freaking out.

I was doing so good, and now im pretty much back where I started. Id say from Jan-April I had morning erections everyday. Now, ive gone almost 2 weeks without one. Not only that, but I masturbated today and my semem was watery and ejaculate didnt shoot out. I thought I had fixed this long ago.
I dont know why this is happening though. Everything Ive done in the past couple of months should have helped my recovery, not reverse it. I stopped using Nizoral shampoo, I started eating more fruit, been exercising at least 3 days a week, started taking l arginine.

Ive been using tribulus once every other day, should I switch to once a day? Also i stopped zinc long ago because it was giving me negative effects, think i should start up again?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:36 am 
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flamingpie wrote:
Ok now I am freaking out.

I was doing so good, and now im pretty much back where I started. Id say from Jan-April I had morning erections everyday. Now, ive gone almost 2 weeks without one. Not only that, but I masturbated today and my semem was watery and ejaculate didnt shoot out. I thought I had fixed this long ago.
I dont know why this is happening though. Everything Ive done in the past couple of months should have helped my recovery, not reverse it. I stopped using Nizoral shampoo, I started eating more fruit, been exercising at least 3 days a week, started taking l arginine.

Ive been using tribulus once every other day, should I switch to once a day? Also i stopped zinc long ago because it was giving me negative effects, think i should start up again?

who advised you to tribulus?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:17 am 
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ive been using different dosages of tribulus for like a year and a half. It seemed from going through all these post on this site that tribulus is the one treatment that I see in almost everyones regime.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:10 pm 
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spstriken, I take it you dont advise tribulus? What do you suggest i take then? If I drop the trib, all i got left in my regime is vitamin d3 and a multivitamin. Im worried that wont be enough.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:34 pm 
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flamingpie wrote:
spstriken, I take it you dont advise tribulus? What do you suggest i take then? If I drop the trib, all i got left in my regime is vitamin d3 and a multivitamin. Im worried that wont be enough.

I have been advising people against Tribulus. I even put studies about it. It is as dangreous as SAw palmetto. Just google to see how many people have got Gyno after using Tribulus. There is a young man on musclechatroom.com who is having exactly the same issue as we do after using Tribulus for 6 months.

yes Vit D3 and multivits , if don't make you better, will not make you worse.
I wrote about Badiaga homeopathic med. I used it for my musclecular degeneration and got daily morning errections. I stopped it about a month ago but still having ME. Even I got wet dream one night , but again I can not claim it is a cure.
If you want you can give it a shot for 3 - 4 weeks at low doses.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:49 pm 
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So today its been 2 years since I stopped taking saw palmetto, so I figured that warranted a little update. To no surprise I am still not fully recovered, but I am happy to see I have made some progress over these years. When I quit I completely crashed, and now I'd say im around 50%. I seem to always have nocturnal erections now, and most mornings I wake up with an erection, although they arent always strong. The main problem I'm still trying to get over is that I still cant get an erection by just seeing or thinking about something, and I never get random erections. I have made alot of improvements since stopping though, which is why im confident that in another 2 years Ill be done with all of this.
I have also cut back on alot of my treatments seeing if this can work itself out naturally. All i take as of now is a multivitamin daily, vitamin d daily and fish oil. I am slowly trying to get off tribulus too, I started taking it once daily, then cut back to once every other day, and now just twice a week. By the end of the summer Ill be completely off it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:02 am 
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So for a brief time i saw the light at the end of the tunnel.

For all of November and December, I felt like I was 100% recovered. I was waking up with rock hard erections, would get 4-5 random boners throughout the day, and have a very high libido. I thought I had put this all behind me.
Then one day towards the end of December I woke up and it was all gone. I started feeling the numbness again, no morning erections, and even when I would masturbate, they were very very weak.

Anyone else get a recover for this long and then it just totally disappeared?

I'm trying a whole new regime now to get my way back to normal. I haven't taken any supplements in almost 6 months, but this week i think i might take some zinc every other day, maybe add d3 again (dropped it over the summer). What do you guys think?

Also, does anyone know good places online I could get some viagra or cialis? I was thinking of ordering some just to get some confidence back.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:17 am 
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Wow, 2 whole months at 100% and you just crash again? that is so cruel. I thought i had done well with a few recoveries lasting a single week. I guess that were well and truly fucked.

Unitedpharmacies and 4rx have generic viagra and cialis at decent prices - excellent service from both too, in my experience


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