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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:47 am 
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Many people on this forum react negatively to the gut bacteria -theories. I understand that it might be difficult to see how a sudden crash could be connected to a gut problem. However it is known that elevated cortisol levels have an effect on digestion: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchi ... 9p38.shtml

"Imagine what goes on in a cortisol-flooded, stressed-out body when food is consumed: Digestion and absorption are compromised, indigestion develops, and the mucosal lining becomes irritated and inflamed."

I also have problems with digestion, and I think they are linked with my cortisol problem. I tend to wake up in the middle of the night not feeling at all tired, probably because for some reason my cortisol levels increase during the night. This has been a problem ever since the crash in 2013.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:34 pm 
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I don't feel tired at all when i wake up in the middle of the night as well. But i tend to feel tired in the middle of the afternoon and at the end of the day, even when i do nothing all day. This must be an evidence of something related to hormones. Also, my cortisol levels are nomal - i already did the tests.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:56 pm 
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It's now almost 2 years and 4 months after i took the last pill. I can say that i am about 75% recovered. I saw results when i started healing the gut. But i still need to get rid of Giardia (but i have it under control somewhat) and am under treatment at a Dutch hospital. They also saw that my immune system is disrupted and that te mucosal lining in my gut is severly damaged. I had a lot of examinations done.

Sexual i still have problems but my depression / anxiety is completely gone. I have the drive / mood to undertake things and my brainfog is also gone. I am doing exercises and don't crash from them but i still have a problem with gaining weight. And also important: i don't look like a ghost anymore. Fatigue is sometimes coming back but only once in a week or once in two weeks.

Yeah, i can say i am doing good.

Happy new year for everybody. Hope you'll all see improvements in 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:41 pm 
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That's awesome. I would recommend a paleo diet with low amounts of sugar intake. Keep up the good work.

Jorden wrote:
It's now almost 2 years and 4 months after i took the last pill. I can say that i am about 75% recovered. I saw results when i started healing the gut. But i still need to get rid of Giardia (but i have it under control somewhat) and am under treatment at a Dutch hospital. They also saw that my immune system is disrupted and that te mucosal lining in my gut is severly damaged. I had a lot of examinations done.

Sexual i still have problems but my depression / anxiety is completely gone. I have the drive / mood to undertake things and my brainfog is also gone. I am doing exercises and don't crash from them but i still have a problem with gaining weight. And also important: i don't look like a ghost anymore. Fatigue is sometimes coming back but only once in a week or once in two weeks.

Yeah, i can say i am doing good.

Happy new year for everybody. Hope you'll all see improvements in 2016.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:13 am 
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Most of the time i follow a paleo diet


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:37 am 
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Yesterday i got a message from the hospital: i have no more parasites in my system. I am very happy but i still have some work to do. They said that my gut is severly damaged from the parasite so i need to follow a regime that helps me to recover my gut health.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
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Jorden wrote:
Yesterday i got a message from the hospital: i have no more parasites in my system. I am very happy but i still have some work to do. They said that my gut is severly damaged from the parasite so i need to follow a regime that helps me to recover my gut health.


Here are the best ways to heal the gut

http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com ... a%20repair

http://freetheanimal.com/2013/12/resist ... wbies.html


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
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Thanks for the information. Coming tuesday i will receive glutamine from the hospital.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
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The above mentioned site 'coolinginflammation' is really good! It will take some time to go trough it but it's worth.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
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I am now 3 years off propecia and i am doing good. I concentrated on healing the gut. For this i use: https://www.canxida.com/. I don't want to push any products but i find this formula the best for treating a dysbiosis. In the stooltest from propeciahelp and solvepfs you'll always find some sort of dysbiosis. I've learned that all kinds of medication can cause a dysbiose in the gut. The best test to locate a dysbiose is to do a organix dysbiosis profile urine test. A comprehensive stool test will also be a good idea but is also very expensive.

Advise during treatment (6 months minimum):
- build op slowly with the canxida
- NO ALCOHOL! That means at least 6 months without...
- no gluten
- no dairy (some could tolerate it)
- no sugars

Dysbiosis means that the good bacteria in you gut are (partly)killed which causes a disbalance. In this disbalance parasites, pathogens, bacteria etc can live freely (but that's not always the case). Gut immunity will be affected.

As a support i take 3 times a high dosis vitamin C. You can also take a HC (hydrocortisone) as support but remember that it's not so good for your gut.

When you're gut is repaired than you can start with healing the adrenals (progesterone or hydrocortisone) and / or the thyroid. Sometimes only helping the adrenals and / or thyroid is enough to recover the gut immunity.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
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I just can't seem to get rid of the fungus in my gut. I read that a low body temperature is the result of a dysfunctional thyroid. This low body temperature is a perfect environment for fungus/parasites/<censored>/pathogens.

I am going to work with a new protocol:
- T3
- Progesterone: I did that before but only with minimal results. Maybe it was because of the low dose i was using (5mg two times a day). I plan to use 20-25mg this time.
- Canxida: i use all the 3 bottles. It is helping me at the moment but i don't reach that great breaktrough.
- Clean diet: paleo with some carbs. I eat carbs because i don't want to stress the thyroid any further with low carb.

I have periods of recovery but PFS always comes back. This is after too much exercise and/or eating/drinking shitty foods/drinks and/or too much sex.

I have good hopes that this proctocol will help me further. I have already healed so much but i want a complete recovery.


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 Post subject: Re: Story from Jorden
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:18 pm 
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And here my story goes on...

I've stopped with T3 and progesterone in the spring. It gave me a small boost but it wasn't stable. I also read that T3 can worsen your gut health so that was mainly the reason i stopped using it.

I continued the canxida treatment with result. After a year i can say that my gut health has increased and i have more energy. Fatigue was my biggest problem and it had diminshed a lot. All the other symptoms are gone (libido is great again).

I still eat a clean diet and trying to reduce the carbs. I also use grass-fed liver from Blue River Herbs (https://blueriverherbs.com/product/grass-fed-liver/). Works really great for me. I also use digestive enzymes to support my gut.

At this moment i don't think much about PFS any more and don't visit this website because i am too busy doing other things. I also learned that it was sibo i was dealing with (did a test). As a result i had a malabsorption because of a damaged and infected small intenstine (thats why i take these liver supplements). Working on the gut always gave me progress.

4 years ago i got PFS but i am feeling really happy and healthy. PFS did a lot of damage but also gave me a lot (sounds strange but thats how i feel). I learned a lot about health in general. Before PFS i drank and ate a lot of shit. I already had a messed up gut before PFS and along with this drug it was even messed up more.

I will update again some time...


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