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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:10 am 
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I found a very interessting study on pubmed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1809 ... d_RVDocSum

After I quit propecia the first time i sufferd two years from side effects, than i started to take 1.5gr Quercetin daily and after six weeks I recoverd suddenly. But my hairloss came back too. An I so I started to treat my hairloss again with propecia as a topical in an ethano, solution (yes I know I m an idiot). Than all side effects came back and I stopped the treatment with propecia solution.

Now I remember that Quercetin thing...
Quercetin can encrease sexuaöl organs. Maybe worth a shot?!


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please can you explain how quercetin has helped your recovery?
i'm very interested....
can you explain your situation after finasteride? (i didn't found your story in the member's story section)
thank you!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:40 pm 
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I am sorry way but I didnt write a member story.
The symptoms are equal to other finasterid users.
After I finished the propecia therapy side effects were gone but after a while, maybe two weeks, they came back.

I sufferd two years from this side effects and read many about endocrine systems etc.. Than I tried quercetine and nettle root for six weeks but nothing happend. I went to an endocrine specialist at the same time and thought about stopping these two herbs, because I didnt want to influence blood tests. But I didnt stop taking the herbs. That was good decision.

The doc didnt find anything like the most docs people visited here in the forum. He said I m fine - tzzz

I was frustrated.... Than after three weeks I suddenly recoverd from all side effects. There were a big party in our city and I went out and met many people. I was drunk and felt horny :) Very horny. A feeling I nearly forgot. I had good sex and I was so suprised about that situation.

Than hairloss began again and I tried finasterid topical. The whole story began again.

Now I remeberd that quercetine thing and found that study above.
It is important to take the right dose of quercetine. 1.5 - 3gr minimum!

My actual situation is good. I stopped taking Arimidex and danazol because it didnt solve the origin of my problems - a decreased prostate I guess.

I actual take prodocine 250mg at morning and 1500mg Quercetine at morning. Maca powder 2.5gr at morning and 2.5gr before bedtime.

I bet I will fully recover the next weeks. I can feel this burning sensation on my head (hairs) again and I have night ercetions again.

And the most important point is, that I can have sex without problems. My eyes arent dry/red any more.

But this horny feeling that I want to nail everything isnt back :) Not yet, but soon. I take quercetine for three weeks now. And I guess that this prodocine stuff (tribosten) helps to recover too!


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I forgot to tell you that I can feel this quercetine doing something with my prostate. It is like the prostate is under pressure or something.

And I dropped nettle root this time, because I dont think it helps me in my situation. Nettle roots works like sawpalmetto... dht inhibitor...

prodocine increases dht!!!


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Here's a question: does finasteride always affect the prostate? Also, how likely would it be to recover post-use?

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mew, please can you move this topic in the recovery section?

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hi citocrhemoe....i have a question 4 u:
when u say u were recovered...how long did u stay in that condiction of recovered?....just few days or more?....
i'm using quercetin from 10 days now and i really feels my prostate hurting like it use to do some times ago...i dn't know if it ois a good thing...
let me know thanks


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hi cytochrome,
please go into more details as to exactly what condition got better with the quercetin.

1. E.D. and how bad was it?

2. Libido - what % of normal?

3. Shrunken penis, penis wrinkly, and tilted on its axis?

4. Numb penis, loss of sensitivity of scrotum and penis?

5. Ejaculation amount?

Did you do anything else except take querctin? Why do you think the nettle root didnt play a role in the recovery? Around the time you recovered, did you see any new girls, and experience anything out of the ordinary.


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painisgrowth wrote:

1. E.D. and how bad was it?

It was really bad. The tumescence of my penis was very low. Maybe 70-80%

2. Libido - what % of normal?

Libido - I had a Libido when I suffered from side effects but... compared to Libido after this quercetin thing... I felt like beeing blocked out in numbers maybe 30% Libido compared to post-side effect time.

3. Shrunken penis, penis wrinkly, and tilted on its axis?

Yes, a little bit. I noticed that the penis feels disconnected and not reacting to things arround "him".


4. Numb penis, loss of sensitivity of scrotum and penis?

Numb yes, , see above but rest no.

5. Ejaculation amount?

Better after quitting finasterid but not as much as after recovery.

Did you do anything else except take querctin? Why do you think the nettle root didnt play a role in the recovery? Around the time you recovered, did you see any new girls, and experience anything out of the ordinary.


Hmm, I took Quercetin, Silymarin and nettle root. I dont really know if nettle root is good or bad. I admit that I take nettle root again. Because I want to have same conditions as the time I recovered.
Yes - the last question is so important :) I went out and after beeing drunken I had that horny feeling I knew long time ago. the feeling - the desire to nail anything in front your way :) and than to regret this all the next day :D[/b]


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italysideeffect wrote:
hi citocrhemoe....i have a question 4 u:
when u say u were recovered...how long did u stay in that condiction of recovered?....just few days or more?....
i'm using quercetin from 10 days now and i really feels my prostate hurting like it use to do some times ago...i dn't know if it ois a good thing...
let me know thanks


I was recovered from september till november. Than after using Finasterid I suffered again from this whole shiet.


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3pm wrote:
Here's a question: does finasteride always affect the prostate? Also, how likely would it be to recover post-use?


Yes Finasteride affects the prostate - always! And there are many user who take/took devided proscar....(me included)


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sorry for asking u again....when u mean recovered,u mean spontaneous erect and everythings working well?


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italysideeffect wrote:
sorry for asking u again....when u mean recovered,u mean spontaneous erect and everythings working well?


hehe, yes exactly this! Everything like before Finasteride.
spontaneous, night erections and and and. The most important thing: LIBIDO!
I recovered completly with all consequences (hairloss). That situation continued till I used Finasterid again (I am such an IDIOT).


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cyto, so now are you taking:
- prodocine 250mg at morning
- 1500mg Quercetine at morning.
- Maca powder 2.5gr at morning and 2.5gr before bedtime.

and also nettle root?

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1500mg Quercetine a day seems alot , I was looking at a bottle in my local healthstore and the dose was recommended at no more than 600 mg.

Could 1500mg or more be harmful everyday ?

Do you reckon its best to take it all at once or spread it out over the course of the day ?


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What is prodocine? Any other names for it???


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i said i'musing quercetin from 10 days and from 4 days i'm feeling pain from my prostate...i used to feel this pain 1year ago and when doc saw my prostate by tests,he said i had a larger prostate from the range (inflamed).....than, i dn't know if the teory of a bigger prostate could be answer of the problem,(i had bigger and it was hurting a lot).
last thing from when i'm using quercetin,i feel like if my erections are more blocked due the pain i'm feeling.....what do u thing ? should i stay more time on quercetin?


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I think you guys shold do some RESEARCH on Google Scholar etc to see what effects Quercetin has on the Prostate etc.


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Mew wrote:
I think you guys shold do some RESEARCH on Google Scholar etc to see what effects Quercetin has on the Prostate etc.


Yes, definitely! Everyone who tries to use quercetine should do some research. I found many articles about quercetine. This stuff is very helpful to heal prostate inflamation and it shoulkd increase sexual organ size. Some further research is recommended. Especially to use quercetine against infertility.


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I meant research to look at both the pros and cons of taking it, either positive or negative.


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