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Do you mean are you still feeling the effects, even though many days off? I understand you, you just have to wait many more days or weeks in order to know if the effects are permanent. I just hope this kind of stuff doesn't induce priapism.

Well, this is an interesting thread to me as i posted once saying that smoking makes me horny and have better erection. I´m talking of regular tabacco, but it also applies to Marihuana in my case (this a bit more actually).

I am not persuading any body to take up smoking but that is what happens to when i smoke, that is why i´d like to get good feedback on this thread and also to know if somebody knows any website that ships to Spain.

In anycase, i feel that between my penis and my balls it is always kind of cool. I also feel that this is preventing my penis from having a proper and long erection... this sucks.

Keep on fighting.

LOL you are putting too much faith in this herb. Priapism is hard to reach even with high dose viagra and other pharma PDE5i, its more of a concern with injectable cavernosal corps drugs such as alprostadil (caverta). ESPECIALLY with our difficult cases (I need higher doses of viagra now). If this was possible damiana would have been legendary for centuries and we wouldnt have had to come up with viagra caverta and the likes.

Reef,
I gave a link earlyer in the thread, they ship to spain, shipping fees only 4usd, cheapest price anywhere on the web, please use the code BIC107 for a 5usd discount on your first order (yep they have a rewards program)
http://www.iherb.com/Frontier-Natural-Products-Cut-Sifted-Damiana-Leaf-16-oz-453-g/30784?at=0
They maintain stock very responsively you can try a few days later if it is out of stock.

Reef,
I gave a link earlyer in the thread, they ship to spain, shipping fees only 4usd, cheapest price anywhere on the web, please use the code BIC107 for a 5usd discount on your first order (yep they have a rewards program)
http://www.iherb.com/Frontier-Natural-Products-Cut-Sifted-Damiana-Leaf-16-oz-453-g/30784?at=0
They maintain stock very responsively you can try a few days later if it is out of stock.[/quote]

Thanks mate, i will. Have u tried this stuff? is it good? In my situation i could completely accept something that made be me (the old me, obviously) once in a while...

Is that for smoking of capsules? cheers

I havent tryed it yet, I ordered the leaves product I sent u a link to (made for tea but most probably useable for smoking) and also ordered some caps from the same website http://www.iherb.com/Damiana
There's a downside to such low shipping charges : it takes longer than average to come.

the herb works
its amazing
really

explosive difference in libido and numbness. I had forgotten i was feeling that numb without it.
Its like a jump from 3 to 9 in a scale of 1-10 in means of pleasure and orgasm erection strength you name it, priapism is a problem really but after about an hour you relax. maybe even half an hour if no horny women is around

i am fantasizing women all the time now. The problem is the prostate damage and i hope i get this over with too, with a combo of massage herb + maybe some antibiotics will try to stick to 2

Are you going to stay on the stuff or quit at any point? I will order some right away if your benefits remain after stopping.

I will stay as long as needed to see permanent results. If i don't see that i will take when needed. Low dose long term for permanent results is best.

That's quite an assumption, to get permanent results from a plant you are smoking. Why do you expect to see permanent results?

Is it really required to mix it with tobacco? I never smoked any tobacco in my life, and I have concerns about starting now.

By the way, it seems that quitting may cause depression and suicidal thoughts, better be cautious with it: http://azarius.fr/healthshop/herb_bags/damiana/reviews/?start=0

What did the damiana in tea form do for you, Solon?

Why do people get on stimulants or antidepressants?
To reach to permanent results. Some of them do, and even when they remove the agent, permanent swifts in their neurotransmitter activity ensue. Its just that drugs of today are not completely sophisticated to treat all symptoms at once so some symptoms reside and new ones develop.

Brain chemistry changes easily, after a time period it is permanent to some degree or another.
A smoker, an alcoholic a regular coffee user a drug addict all of them get permanent changes in their brain chemistry.
I know i will get permanent results i just don't know how big or if i will get permanent side effects too, so i have to find the delicate balance.

*i don't use it in tea
only smoke it

How long time the effect last? And what the dose?

Depends. Normally it lasts from hours to a day.
Dose you have to figure out, if you put too much you might get a bit dizzy or hallucinated. Regularly it just uplifts your libido and erection. Its great if you find proper dosing really

Well, anybody else has tried this?

I´d like to have a try soon.

Solon, do you figure out how long it could take for me to receive the shipping in Spain?

Thanks mate.

That's interesting solon I'm glad you've found something helpful. I Havnt heard of anyone else having the same results and look forward to seeing what's to come on this board

I bought the daniana liquid extract from whole foods this morning

I really am not into burning stuff and inhaling smoke so I thought this was a better way.

Anyway, so far zero results. It made my skin feel warm and I felt kind of buzzed (just a little) for an hour but still no libido at all. Maybe one dose is not enough and I need to take it for a while.

i don't know if liquid does the trick
i still have very positive sexual results on damiana and have figured the dose that helps me. Above this dose i feel a bit dizzy and overactive.
Its an excellent uplifter of libido and sexuality definately. I actually become so horny that i want to do bizarre things to women.
anyways.. i only tried the smoking version and from a specific source, some others ordered from other sources and it didn't work according to them. I can't comment on that

nevertheless testicle size is not improved yet i ve read anecdotal reports from people here and there that say that damiana helped them for that too.
i think the low 3-adiol-g + prostate inflammation is still hindering my testicles from recovering and i don't know if size is ever recoverable in me

im prepared for the worst regarding testicles, but at least i have solved the libido puzzle even with the use of a herb, i couldn't care less if i had to smoke it everyday for the rest of my life.

Here are some more Infos:

Anti-aromatase activity of the constituents from damiana (Turnera diffusa).
Zhao J, Dasmahapatra AK, Khan SI, Khan IA.
Source

Department of Pharmacognosy, School of Pharmacy, University of Mississippi, University, MS 38677, United States.
Abstract
ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE:

Damiana (Turnera diffusa Willd. Ex Schult) has traditionally been used as an herbal aphrodisiac.
AIM OF THE STUDY:

The study was aimed to investigate the anti-aromatse activity and the estrogenic activity of the constituents isolated from Turnera diffusa.

MATERIALS AND METHODS:
The methanolic extract and 24 compounds isolated from the leaves of Turnera diffusa were evaluated for aromatase activity by using a tritiated-water release assay and for estrogenic activity by using yeast estrogen screen (YES) assay.

RESULTS:
The methanolic extract demonstrated a dose-dependent inhibitory activity of the aromatase enzyme with the IC(50) value of 63.1 microg/ml. Among the 24 tested compounds, pinocembrin and acacetin showed the most potent inhibition with IC(50) values of 10.8 and 18.7 microM, respectively. Estrogenic activity was also observed in the extract and three compounds including apigenin 7-glucoside, Z-echinacin and pinocembrin with EC(50) values of 10, 20 and 67 microuM, respectively.

CONCLUSIONS:
The extract of Turnera diffusa and two isolated compounds pinocembrin and acacetin could significantly suppress aromatase activity. Moreover, apigenin 7-glucoside, Z-echinacin and pinocembrin showed estrogenic activity.

PMID:18948180 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18948180

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J Ethnopharmacol. 2009 Jun 25;123(3):423-9. Epub 2009 Mar 31.
Turnera diffusa Wild (Turneraceae) recovers sexual behavior in sexually exhausted males.
Estrada-Reyes R, Ortiz-López P, Gutiérrez-Ortíz J, Martínez-Mota L.
Source

Laboratorio de Fitofarmacología, Dirección de Investigaciones en Neurociencias, Instituto Nacional de Psiquiatría Ramón de la Fuente Muñiz, Calzada México-Xochimilco 101, Col. San Lorenzo Huipulco, Delegación Tlalpan, Mexico City 14370, Mexico.
Abstract

ETHNOPHARMACOLOGICAL RELEVANCE:
In folk medicine, Turnera diffusa Wild (Turnera diffusa, Turneraceae) is considered as an aphrodisiac, but its ability to restore copulation in sexually inhibited subjects has not been reported.

AIM OF THE STUDY:
To determine whether Turnera diffusa recovers sexual behavior in sexually exhausted (SExh) male rats and to identify the main components in an aqueous extract.

MATERIALS AND METHODS:
SExh males were treated with Turnera diffusa, 20-80 mg/kg, yohimbine, 2 mg/kg, or vehicle.

RESULTS:
Yohimbine and Turnera diffusa (80 mg/kg) significantly increased the percentage of males achieving one ejaculatory series and resuming a second one. In addition, Turnera diffusa significantly reduced the post-ejaculatory interval. These effects were not associated to an increase in locomotor activity or anxiety-like behaviors. The HPLC-ESI-MS analysis showed the presence of caffeine, arbutine, and flavonoids as the main compounds in the active extract.

CONCLUSION:
The results support the use of Turnera diffusa as an aphrodisiac in traditional medicine and suggest possible therapeutic properties of Turnera diffusa on sexual dysfunction. The flavonoids present in active extract may participate in its pro-sexual effect, which is analogous to those produced by yohimbine, suggesting a shared mechanism of action.

PMID:19501274 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19501274

So is this stuff still working or what?

Im sick of reading all these threads where oh a miracle substance is working blah blah and then the thread just seems to die.

Solon care to update thanks?