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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:33 pm 
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There is a Dr in China, who claims that antibiotics will not cure prostatitis and that messages will only help for a short period, then it will return. He has some natural products that he "prescribes" Here is the website it is worth checking out.

http://www.chinamedcure.com/prostatitis.html

Obviously, it is not translated very well.

I sent them an email, and they returned a really long email answering all of my questions plus more.

Total treatment is about $375 I think.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Here is the email I sent him and then his assistants response...

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-Can it affect libido?
-When you treat this, is part of the protocol messages or antibiotics?
-What would you say the average cost is for treatment?
-There is a Dr is Greece, who is one of the lead physicians for the prostate. He claims that so few prostatis cases are fixed because it can take up to 25-30 messages as well as up to 3 antibiotics to fix. Do you agree with this?
-What would you say the % of prostatis patients you treat are "fixed"?
-Have you had any patients who claimed to have used Propecia, Finasteride, or Proscar and claimed that this caused or worsened the issue? Where you able to treat them?

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Dear sir

Prostatitis do can affect libido, make libido or sexual function down, prostatitis reason is circulation blockage of prostate inside, only medicines can remove blockage and toxin in prostate, recover prostate health, then sex and libido improved.
so we don't use massage, and antibiotics don't work to prostate, it can't cure prostatitis.
We don't agree the that doctors claim you mentioned, western doctors don't know how to cure prostatitis, though massage can reduce block inside prostate temperary, can't solve root reason of blockage, prostate become block later, antibiotics can't enters prostate due to thick envelop outside, chinese herbs medicines work prostate by body channels, calls"jingluo", this's absolutely different with westerm treatment.
our cured rate is 95%, effect rate is 98%, in fact every prostatitis can be cured, as long as they avoid some bad life habits, such as sit down long tine, eat lots of spicy, hot foods, and isn't tired, strain mood.
Propecia, Finasteride, or Proscar are for open urethra, but it has side effect, if take these medicines long time, once stop taking it, urinating become difficult more, this's drugs dependence. never cure prostate from root
The causes of prostatitis are the lower heat and toxin, blockage obstructs circulation of prostate, circulation stagnate and is blocking. There are 32 more glandular tubes inside prostate, when the circulation of prostate is blocked, lower heat toxin can't be cleared away from body, blocking of circulation cause prostatitis, bring you burning, pain, discomfortable, swollen feeling, urinating many problems, such as frequently, urgent, weak, drip, even sexual function down, less libido. Only discharge and release the blockage, toxin in prostae tubes, clear away the lower heat toxin from body, make circulation smooth without blockage, can cure prostatitis, improve sex and libido, make urination stronger, free and normal, pain, burning discomfortable feeling disappear. The medicines not only remove all symptoms, also cure prostate permanently, the natural treatment don't hurt body and prostate to give back health, this's root treatment so that once you are well,conditions don't repeat any more.
Professor suggests you take:
"Discharged block prostate capsules No.2" 9 bottles;
"Discharged block prostate capsules No.1" 3 bottles;
"Prostate clearing-heat powder "40 packs (2 big bag);
all are for taken orally for a month.
The capsules use superactive natural animals herbs to make, have more stronger strength to remove the stagnancy and blockage, toxin that cause prostatitis,can achieve smoothen blockage to cure prostatitis goal. The powder is clearing away toxin, lower heat from prostate, discharge toxin, wash prostate to achieve antibacterial action, smoothen blockage goal, clear away toxin and obstruction to cure prostate, during taking powder can see dark or brown excrement, which is just the toxin cause all symptoms, followed excrement color become yellow during take the powder, all symptoms are disappeared, sex function is improved, prostatitis are cured, the treatment not only disappear all symptoms you having, also make prostate recover normal from root, don't reappear. Medicines are natural plants, animals after especial process to make, don't have any side-effect chemical drugs bring you. Antibiotics and other medicines you took never clear away the blockage and toxin from prostate, so prostate problems never leave you. medicines functions is at http://www.chinamedcure.com/#pa1, some patients feedback during treatment is at http://www.chinamedcure.com/feedback.html.
The medicines fee for 30 days is $330 us dollar, add express postage $50, total need $380 usd. Medicines are sent by post office EMS,after send parcel give you the shipment number, can track it online http://www.ems.com.cn/qcgzOutQueryAction.do?reqCode=gotoSearchE or http://app3.hongkongpost.com/CGI/mt/enquiry.jsp , usually you can get the parce in a week.
Unit price #2 or #1 capsules(60pills) $25 us dollar/bottle, powder is $15 us dollar/big bag(20 small bags). This's Prof.Wang suggested best dosage treatment project, but if you still can't afford the treatment fee, professor can reduce the dosage for you.

if use western union or Moneygram to pay, send $380 USD is ok.
if use Paypal pay it, please pay $410.8 USD total, Paypal deducts lots of trade fee and currency exchange fee from payment arrives.
The payment ways reference at http://www.chinamedcure.com/payment.html

Tell us which ways you want and when finish it, please give me your address, phone Number, so that we can send the parcel at once and tell you the parcel no. for trace.









Sincerely
Prof.Wang's assistant
Dr.Patty
www.chinamedcure.com


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:49 pm 
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It's interesting, but I'd like to hear some testimonials or something.... what is it, some magic powder lol?

The one thing they are for sure right is on that Western medicine is terrible at curing it..


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:30 pm 
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Some herbs based off Chinese medicine.


There are other TCM site, that "supposedly" cures prostatitis...

http://prostatitisradicalcure.com/a/About_us/
http://www.damo-qigong.net/treat/prostatitis/
http://www.tcmtreatment.com/images/diseases/prostatitis.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:48 pm 
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Moonman, did you try one of these Chinese treatments?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:36 am 
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ihp try this anyone else try this?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:32 am 
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倒腾


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:00 pm 
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moonman1 wrote:
There is a Dr in China, who claims that...


I think I heard something humorous before that began with this exact same intro. Sorry guys, the way this is written, well, it's a scam. Give them your information and money at your own peril and don't be surprised when you receive a load of tea leaves in the mail.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:48 pm 
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ihp use this.. and work..
hey look that..http://www.prostatitis3d-cure.com/testimonials.html

here they said that he clean the calcification..
solon said that his prostate are hard as a rock.
read this..
maybe i will travel to china if orthomolecular don't work


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:45 pm 
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Ive read somewhere that Song has been proven to be a scam artist that use fake testimonials on his website.
And Ive never heard of anybody cured of prostatitis by intra prostatitc injections of abx. Do NOT get obsessed with abx to kill intra prostatic pathogens in the absence of proof. Will do more harm than good.
"prostatitis" can come from pelvic floor muscle dysfunctions (formerly called prostatodynia, check the studies form stanford university) , also another theory confirmed by one recent study and many anecdotal reports shows that some prostatitis can come from intestinal/colonic diseases.
Plus the autoimmune etiology of prostatitis is being more and more studied, just do an "autoimmune prostatitis" search on pubmed. A lot of these studies are chinese btw. One of the major goals of TCM is to balance the immune system (th18/th2) so it makes sense.
I must say that if IHP took these herbs and it worked for him without making him sick, Id be tempted to try them for sure. The chinese seem to have the most interest in prostatitis AND its impact of sexual health compared to western doctors. And they also approach it scientifically, its not all traditional medicine.
But I must say that without IHP testimonial I would have laughed at the gullible pple sending money to such a ridiculous website.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:14 pm 
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So did anyone try this yet?

I'd love to try this, but at $400 it is a pretty big risk

I think others have mentioned giving this a try, but who has actually given this a chance and what were the results?

If this is just a scam, I wish others would chime in and put it to rest


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:30 am 
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Chi mentioned that he used/is using them. He said the first 5 days he had a full recovery...which I believe then went away...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:01 am 
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damn that is too bad

I really do feel like the prostate must have something to do with all of this. I still feel like maybe mine's infected or something, but i guess no one has made long term recoveries by treating the prostate angle as of yet


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