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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:59 pm 
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Age: 34
Drug: Propecia
Usage: 4 years
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Location: London
) Where are you from (country)? Turkey but living in UK

1) How did you find this forum (Google search -- if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website -- if so, what page? Other?) Google Link

2) What is your current age, height, weight? 34 years old 85 kilos

3) Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise? Not regularly,

4) What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?

5) Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)? Hair Loss

6) For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)? 4years

7) How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride? 28

8) How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit? 32

9) How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)? cold turkey

10) What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic? propecia

11) What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)? 1mg per day

12) How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects? 3 yaers

13) What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[ x] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ ]x Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ x] Loss of Morning Erections
[x ] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[x ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[x ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[x ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[x ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[x ] Confusion
[x ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[x ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[x ] Slurring of Speech
[x ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[x ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[x ] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[x ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[x ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / "Poo Pellets"
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)


14) What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
None
15) If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the "Blood Tests" section and link to them in your post)?

16) Anything not listed in the above questions you'd like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

17) Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

Hi everybody I am from Turkey, and living in UK for a while, I used this poision for 4 years and , I read many stories on this forum and my one is not much different from yours, but I really really need your help, as things are not getting any better for me, cant remember the exact dates but I used propecia from 2004 to 2008, I don understand why I used this medicine such a long time :( ,

the firts 1 year I have not noticed anything , but than I started to realise that I was emotionally loosing my interst against the girls I was going out, but as I did not have a steady relation these times I never thought propecia could be the reason, up until, 2008 February, I was back to Turkey from UK for 15 days holiday, and was going to go out with the girl who I was dreaming for a looong time, after a nice dinner she invited me to her place, and guess what at the end of the night I could not get my penis up at all, I did have some pre-symtomps of this situation, at different times and occasions, but never getting up has not happened to me before, after this disater and after some researches about propecia I stopped propecia cold turkey at feb. 2008,

I really do not want to go through all the depressing time I had so far, as it has no difference than yours, but all I can see is everybody here is going through a lot of blood tests and hopefully guys you are seeing the benefits of these,

3 weeks ago I had some blood tests but as no one will get surprised my GP told me its all in my head !! which is really annoying, from the blood tests I can say my Testosterone is 14.0 and FSH is 11.2 which he said FSH is high, but eventhough I asked him to refer me to an urologist he wants to have another blood test in one month time than he said if there is amything abnormal he will refer me,

Since then I started to have some vitamins daily which is Vitamin C- Zinc- Multiomega- Vitamin B complex- and Maca + sometimes zma, to be honest I have not seen much difference at my situation I still have very weak erections, no spontenaus, its nearly impossible to have an erection by thinking, I was really hoping that Maca will help but seems like that is not working either, but I will continue to use it until I finish one box of it, and I hope Maca does not have any devistating side effects,

I will have another blood tests in 2 weeks but meanwhile please advise me what to do guys, I am feeling so so down, and I have to say addition to sexual side effects after stopping this poison I had 2 strong panic attacs, both ended up in the hospital, but nothing makes ne down as much as the sexual side effects, I have done a life time mistake by using this shit, I am very regretful, very very regretful, I wish that I lost all my hair other than being in a situation like this,

I would like to say that I am so sorry for everybody experiencing these effects, there is really not much I can say, I am really sorry for everybody and appreciate any advise you guys can give me before I lose myself,


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:57 am 
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Hi, I just joined to this website man, I am completely stressed so many members trying so many different things, many supplements and lots of tests but not many people are getting any better

I am just so lost really loosing myself and trying to avoid going into any depression, but I cant get this situation out of my mind not even a second through the whole day, for Godsake advise me something

The GP I am going is not really taking it serious and telling me its all in my head, this is so annoying I must say, I will have some blood tests in two weeks time and those are Total T - Free T- LH- FSH - E2- SHBG- Prolactin- DHT- DHEA- T3- Reverse T3- T4 do you think these are ok, eventhough I am going to have those I have no hope whatsoever , please advise me anything you can
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:52 pm 
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The GP I am going is not really taking it serious and telling me its all in my head,


Show him this:

http://www.propeciahelp.com
http://www.propeciahelp.com/awareness
http://www.propeciahelp.com/studies-and-research
viewforum.php?f=8

That should give him a clue this is a real problem, and not "in your head" or psychogenic.

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I will have some blood tests in two weeks time and those are Total T - Free T- LH- FSH - E2- SHBG- Prolactin- DHT- DHEA- T3- Reverse T3- T4 do you think these are ok,


Try and add:

SHGB
TSH
3a-diol G (3 alpha-Androstanediol glucuronide)


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please advise me anything you can


Stay calm and do not stress too much. It can take time for many symptoms to improve after quitting the drug, depending on each individual's body and other variables.


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from the blood tests I can say my Testosterone is 14.0 and FSH is 11.2 which he said FSH is high, but eventhough I asked him to refer me to an urologist he wants to have another blood test in one month time than he said if there is amything abnormal he will refer me,


Let's see what the results of your next blood tests show. If you can, post your current blood tests with ranges beside each test so we can compare in future.

Get plenty of rest, eat healthy, and try and focus on other activities in the meantime.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Hi, I just joined to this website man, I am completely stressed so many members trying so many different things, many supplements and lots of tests but not many people are getting any better

I am just so lost really loosing myself and trying to avoid going into any depression, but I cant get this situation out of my mind not even a second through the whole day, for Godsake advise me something

The GP I am going is not really taking it serious and telling me its all in my head, this is so annoying I must say, I will have some blood tests in two weeks time and those are Total T - Free T- LH- FSH - E2- SHBG- Prolactin- DHT- DHEA- T3- Reverse T3- T4 do you think these are ok, eventhough I am going to have those I have no hope whatsoever , please advise me anything you can
PLEASE

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Sinsin

Hi mate. I understand your panic, everyone goes through the horrible realisation after joining here that there is a lot of experimenting different supplements and medical treatments without any clear path, and very little success. There is some progress recently in getting scientific help to narrow down the cause of what might have happened. Hopefully we can take it from there. I think you have been suffering for a couple of years, try and take things easy and don't let the facts of the forum overwhelm you all of a sudden.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:50 pm 
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I will have all the detailed blood test in 2 weeks as I started to use Maca, so I just want to give it 1 month time to see what difference it does, and if anyone can tell me about Maca would be really appreciated, I did researches of course but ever website say something different about it, I just dont know what to believe all I dont want at this stage to have another side effect, so if any of you have information on Maca wether it has dangerous side effects or not please inform me ,

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:53 pm 
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if any of you have information on Maca wether it has dangerous side effects or not please inform me


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:25 pm 
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Waw mew very good informations, I did research but never saw these ones, its been 3 weeks for me now actually 2.5 I will try it for 2 months and see what effect it will do, as 2.5 weeks is early to judge, well I just wonder which maca I am using then I got it from Holland & Barret its 500mg capsules, has a color very close to black like a soldier uniform green colour, but I have no idea which one is that, by the way is reduced prostat size cause any danger ?? thats actually a bit concerning,


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Supplements like MACA will give you a 'boost' at the very best, if you are looking for sustained improvement, don't bother. Also, no not take any supplements week(s) before blood tests.


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I know UK but at least let me keep my hope for a while man thats all I have anyway ,


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:27 am 
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I am back here after a while, and already very much steressed after reading the horror stories, I just cant stop reading them, and I completely lost my trust that our situation will get any better after having the 2nd disaster in 6 months with different girls, and this is going through to my head big time that as soon as I meet a girl I am already starting to think about what will happen at the end and what kind of emberassment I will be facing, can anyone at least offer some supplements , eventhough I know it will not make any change I just want to use them , is vitamin c, b, fish oil and zinc any good? any other suggestions


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Try Horny Goat Weed and L-Arginine for erection strength.

Don't psych yourself out in sexual situations, you will give yourself performance anxiety which will only compound the situation.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:19 pm 
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Mew you are so right on that point but its really really not in my hand, as I had few experiences, and as soon as I meet a new girl, fear comes to me directly, by fear I mean the thought of being unsuccesful at sex, and for sure when this happens I am getting double effected, but cant stop this as its really not under my control, because of the feeling I started to keep myself away from the situtions like going and meeting new people, I am even so scared to get married as my family wants me to but they dont know anything about my situation, how can I get married if I have an issue an inconsistency like this, eventhough I have erection it is nothing compare to the times when I was not on this poison, and everybody keeps having millions of blood tests which I have already given up as there is no outcome at all.


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Consider speaking to a mental health specialist to help you deal with the emotional/psychological impacts of the issues you are facing. Talking about this issue with others can be a huge weight off your chest and mind.

As hard as it sounds, you can't let the drug "win" and run your life, you have to take control of your situation to the best of your ability. Preventing yourself from meeting new people will probably not help you in the long run as you'd be isolating yourself.

If you are planning to get married, you should certainly consider discussing your issues with your future wife... honesty and trust are great contributors to a successful marriage and her support will probably help ease your fears/anxiety.

As mentioned there are natural supplements which can help with erectile function. If these are not sufficient there are Viagra, Cialias, Levitra. With more success in this department you will probably find your fears/anxiety about sexual performance will convert to more confidence longterm.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:19 pm 
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I feel better when I speak to you Mew, and I will also try L-Arginine, hopefully it helps.


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Is there anyone who used Tongkat Ali ? seems like very effective for libido and testosterone as a natural herb, anyone has any experience??


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I really envy the people who gets better permanently by using supplements, for the last 1 year I tried every single supplement possible, such as zinc, fish oil, vitamin c- b complex- d3 - b6 , magnesium, maca, horny goat weed, tribulus, tongkat ali, l-argenine, zma , and nothing works, actually most of them worked the first few days than all crashed, situation is not getting any better, its been 4.5 years since I stopped this poison but still no improvement at all, now I have no girl friend also had big arguements with my family , and I am just so depressed as all I want is sit at home and do nothing, eventhough I know I am not supposed to be like this I just cant stop myself going into depression, as I have no more belief that I will get better, if the situation did not improve at all in 4.5 years I dont think it will anymore and I believe I am premanently damaged, I dont even have the courage or the eager of approaching girls anymore, my life is so messed up, I am just very much hopeless.


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and I am just so depressed as all I want is sit at home and do nothing, eventhough I know I am not supposed to be like this I just cant stop myself going into depression, as I have no more belief that I will get better, if the situation did not improve at all in 4.5 years I dont think it will anymore and I believe I am premanently damaged, I dont even have the courage or the eager of approaching girls anymore, my life is so messed up, I am just very much hopeless.


I feel exactly the same way all the time brother. I don't do very much of anything. I go out grab some food with a friend occasionally... I donno where we will be with this in a few years so I have some hope because I remember how I used to be before this shit and if I can one day be like that again... things will be much better. Still even considering the train wreck finasteride has made my current life into, maybe we can get better with science helping us.


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GOOOD I am tryıng so hard to focus on life and not to dive into depressions, GOD help me its so hard.


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I have 12 years of this crap and I take 5htp that medication has worked for me for depression. :(

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:21 pm 
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Deluxxx so how are you doing now any improvement on sexual effects??


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