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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:19 am 
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Solonjk, you still smoke?


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Right now? No.


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Uva ursi? Thats another thing i missed taking.
Does the iherb product contain that too for sure?
How many did you order man i wanted to try that :P


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How it's going?


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solon, i ordered pure damiana, no uva ursi. Just saying that damiana contains arbutin, a compound which is metabolized into hydroquinone in the urinary tract, with antiseptic properties. People, especially women, use Uva Ursi, another herb containing arbutin, to cure UTIs, and I know some people that have used this herb (long term which you are not supposed to do because of liver concerns) to cure chronic prostatitis also. Uva ursi probably contains more arbutin than damiana and i doubt it is the compound responsible for the effects you mentionned, since you have to take it orally for many days for arbutin to exert its effect on the urinary tract. Damiana have purported "aphrodisiac" properties that Uva ursi definitely does not have. Also you are definitely not supposed to smoke uva ursi.


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solonjk wrote:
I will send you one to try. I placed a big order since they don't sell individually. The worst i will loose like 1500$. So what i will just have to fuck the hell out of 100 different girls to see if it works in everysingle one equally. I think its enough for the 7 years of hell.
It has strange ingredients !!marshmallow, rose, red clover etc etc
Maybe its the combo!
Maybe not.
We will find out soon don't worry


You purchased $1500 worth?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:15 pm 
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venceremos wrote:
solon, i ordered pure damiana, no uva ursi. Just saying that damiana contains arbutin, a compound which is metabolized into hydroquinone in the urinary tract, with antiseptic properties. People, especially women, use Uva Ursi, another herb containing arbutin, to cure UTIs, and I know some people that have used this herb (long term which you are not supposed to do because of liver concerns) to cure chronic prostatitis also. Uva ursi probably contains more arbutin than damiana and i doubt it is the compound responsible for the effects you mentionned, since you have to take it orally for many days for arbutin to exert its effect on the urinary tract. Damiana have purported "aphrodisiac" properties that Uva ursi definitely does not have. Also you are definitely not supposed to smoke uva ursi.


yeah, i ve read that today about the arubtin in damiana. Its interesting. I will start my treatment plan soon to see if i can reach a permanent boost like i did when treating my adrenals. If there is any logic to be found in our biosystem then it should work sooner or later. If not, i ll just have to juice some every time i need to transform to a sex freak.


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bluecloud87 wrote:
solonjk wrote:
I will send you one to try. I placed a big order since they don't sell individually. The worst i will loose like 1500$. So what i will just have to fuck the hell out of 100 different girls to see if it works in everysingle one equally. I think its enough for the 7 years of hell.
It has strange ingredients !!marshmallow, rose, red clover etc etc
Maybe its the combo!
Maybe not.
We will find out soon don't worry


You purchased $1500 worth?


I wanted more. Wouldn't you? Well you haven't tried it yet.... thats why. Ha


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:28 pm 
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solonjk wrote:
I will start my treatment plan soon to see if i can reach a permanent boost like i did when treating my adrenals

How exactly did you "treat your adrenals" and did the positive effects subside? Impossible to find here since you very cleverly decided to erase all your posts a while ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Cycled small doses of stimulant, rested a few months. Then higher doses of stimulants rested again for another few months. And finally took very strong stimulant doses. 3 months necessary home bed rest to recover from the sides from too much noradrenaline and finally my adrenals started producing hormones and pretty much balanced again. It was a nightmare but i finally made it. Otherwise i would be still on cortisol for the rest of my life.
Its just a matter of resetting your set points. I achieved it by luck, trial and error


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:22 am 
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I found damiana leaf on ebay


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:45 pm 
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Its easy to get i know. Better for us.
Try and see which one does the best job. I found the one for me, but its a bit too strong. I need to cut down on the dose and measure my hormones after some time.
Hope the effect sets in for good and my brain gets accustomed to a new setpoint of hormone/neurotransmitter production


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:13 pm 
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How do you smoke it?


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:27 pm 
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It's a natural herbal supplement, you can buy it from a nutrition store. It usually comes in capsules, in a bottle.

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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:57 pm 
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Smoking it is the only way i benefited.
Mew try it.
I will send you the brand i found


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solonjk wrote:
bluecloud87 wrote:
solonjk wrote:
I will send you one to try. I placed a big order since they don't sell individually. The worst i will loose like 1500$. So what i will just have to fuck the hell out of 100 different girls to see if it works in everysingle one equally. I think its enough for the 7 years of hell.
It has strange ingredients !!marshmallow, rose, red clover etc etc
Maybe its the combo!
Maybe not.
We will find out soon don't worry


You purchased $1500 worth?


I wanted more. Wouldn't you? Well you haven't tried it yet.... thats why. Ha


I was just asking, what's your problem? I have actually tried it along with most other 'sexual' herbs and it did give a little boost.

Would you be able to send some of the stuff you have to me at some point? I have paypal


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:41 pm 
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I was wondering, do we have to smoke it with tobacco?

Has this stuff been able to bring you back 100% just as you were pre-Fin, including horniness, sensitivity, erections, and so on?


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:08 pm 
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I will send to somepeople to try.
You smoke it in tobacco or any other type of smoke.
Its very strong so put a small bit don't over do.
It brings back everything really. Libido wise, immediate spontaneous erection, greed for sex, deep sexual feelings anything you really wish depending on the circumstance.
Numbness stays pretty much the same or increases slightly but with the mass libido its actually a good combination because a hard rock erection lasts for half an hour or so.

Im not kidding, its just my prostate that hinders me from using this every day at most. I will try small doses though soon, now im amidst too much work and don't have time for experimentation


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:03 pm 
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Are you sure it isn't addictive, or doesn't kill brain neurons?


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 Post subject: Re: damiana
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:17 pm 
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I don't think it is so addictive.
But for some anything that gives them pleasure could be.
I haven't used it for many days now, so i guess i am not one of the easy addicts.
Yet, if a low dose proves to be a long lasting help or permanently switches some neurotransmitters to function optimally i will stick to that.


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