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wlan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:20 am 
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Some researchers have treated testicular athrophy with the help of garlic and zinc:


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Cadmium (Cd) is one of the environmental pollutants that affect various tissues and organs including testis. Harmful effect of cadmium on testis is known to be germ cell degeneration and impairment of testicular steroidogenesis. In the present study, the effect of diallyl sulfide (DAS), a sulfur-containing volatile compound present in garlic, and zinc (Zn) was investigated on cadmium-induced testicular toxicity in rats. Male adult Wistar rats treated with cadmium (2.5 mg/kg body wt, five times a week for 4 weeks) showed decreased body weight, paired testicular weight, relative testicular weight, serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and testicular total antioxidant capacity (TAC) and protein levels. Testicular steroidogenic enzymes, such as 3beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3beta-HSD) and 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17beta-HSD), and marker enzymes, such as sorbitol dehydrogenase (SDH), lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), acid phosphatase (ACP), alkaline phosphatase (ALP), and glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD), showed a significant decrease in activities whereas that of gamma-glutamyl transferase was significantly increased after cadmium exposure. The results have revealed that concurrent treatment with DAS or zinc restored key steroidogenic enzymes, SDH, LDH, and G6PD and increased testicular weight significantly. DAS restored the TAC level and increased testosterone level and relative testicular weight significantly. Zinc restored testicular protein level and body weight. It can be concluded that cadmium causes testicular toxicity and inhibits androgen production in adult male rats probably by affecting pituitary gonadotrophins and that concurrent administration of DAS or zinc provides protection against cadmium-induced testicular toxicity.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18972399
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Mark2012
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Has anyone here tried this ?

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Broken_Pecker
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I doubt zinc and garlic are gonna fix my nuts.

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propeciashiz
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iv been using garlic, berocca and http://www.vitalgreens.com/docs/vital_greens_ingredients.pdf had major improvements in testicles.

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Broken_Pecker
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:38 am 
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iv been using garlic, berocca and http://www.vitalgreens.com/docs/vital_greens_ingredients.pdf had major improvements in testicles.


How much did your balls actually shrink? Did you have a urologist look at them? any measurements? And do you think their size increase is permanent? Stop using the stuff and see if the size stays... I can get noticable increases in size from Tongkat ali but the size increase isn't permanent.

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Hey Pecker,

They shrunk to about 16 ml now there about 25ml.Yes i had a uroglist measure and look at them. They vary. There hanging now which is feels good.

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Broken_Pecker
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:54 am 
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Hey Pecker,

They shrunk to about 16 ml now there about 25ml.Yes i had a uroglist measure and look at them. They vary. There hanging now which is feels good.


So what EXACTLY would you attribute this to? Details please.

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well ive been doing alot of ph work. Seen a lot of improvements, so its working. As for scientific proof i dont know, i just feel better. My erectile size has even increased as far as shrilved flaccid penis i think that comes down to low free test. So far ive decreased my ALT by half, increased teticle and penis size, stopped muscle twitching and back pain. Hardest thing at the moment is mental problems, moods swings, no motivation , depressed et.

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I'm talking about testicle size. What did you take?

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all ive been taking is vital greens, sodium bicarbonate, citric acid, tartric acid, fish oil, b vitamins.

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Well you should be greatful your balls have grown back. A rare achievement around here.

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there not full size, but improving.

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propeciashiz wrote:
all ive been taking is vital greens, sodium bicarbonate, citric acid, tartric acid, fish oil, b vitamins.


How long have you been taking that stuff for and what supplement do you think helped you the most ?

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